The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. A lot of guys shoot grooved bullets with paper but most shoot a soft straight side patch bullet with concave base. I have done all my bpcr shooting4570, 34 shilo using 20. Has anyone won a bpcr competition using paper patch bullets. I think this is a 7 part video giving detailed instructions on how to reload the m1881 black powder load 4570 ammo with a 500 grain lead bullet. The powder charge settled right to the top of the case. If for instance i wished to reduce a black powder charge in a. Good paper patched hunting bullet for 4570 bp shiloh rifle. The powder charge was reduced to 55 grains because the troopers complined of the recoil in the carbines. My gun was rebored from 40something to 4570, so it had a fresh bore.
Black powder 4570 handirifle the frugal outdoorsman. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. Perhaps this helps a little to get ya started, paper patch bullets are really cool to load and shoot just time. The bullet weight was changed to 500 grains to improve long range accuracy. Most people think that ppb are for black powder only but they can be used with smokeless loads, and either will work with fantastic results. Does anybody know anything about paper patched bullets for 4570. Disclaimer faqs gun links discount sporting goods newsletter. Killing effects of paper patched bullets in 4570 and 45110. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders.
Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles.
When i tell them that i have used black powder but use mostly smokeless then they become more interested. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Ask shiloh questions about your shiloh sharps rifle. I bought an rcbs mold for a 500 gr pp bullet to use in a 4570 browning bpcr.
Loaded in this fashion, with a grease ball and lubed paper, you should be able to shoot 10 shots and push all the fouling out the muzzel with one dry patch. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. About half of the circumference of bullet had deep cuts. So there i stood, holding in my hands not just a good woods rifle but a black powder cartridge rifleat 14 the cost of others i had priced. Jul 10, 2008 if you are shooting black powder, the patched bullet should be bore size, using the black powder charge to slug the bullet up to fill. For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an uncleaned barrel. Like almost all black powder loads and bullets you have to experiment to find out what works. Very good accuracy has been obtained with paperpatched bullets, but the assembly procedure is relatively laborintensive. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters.
A cast bullet is made by allowing molten metal to solidify in a mold. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. But with black powder, the amount of lube held in the diamond pattern, and the kind of lube usually a dry wax type best used with the knurl, doesnt soften the. The original load was a 405 grain hollow based bullet over 70 grains of black powder. Reloading 4570 with black powder m1881 500gr bullet37. It is an excellent article for anyone interested in this stuff. One thing that i have found when i tell people that i make and shoot paper patch bullets they seem to think that i shoot black powder only. Good paper patched hunting bullet for 4570 bp post by who cares wed dec 31, 2014 6. Perhaps this helps a little to get ya started, paper patch bullets are really cool to load and shoot just time consuming. If you are hunting with pp bullets then under bore size is better with a soft alloy bp fouling must be taken into account. These lubricants softened the black powder fouling for easier removal and reduced the tendency of. Jun 16, 2017 shooting a paper patched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle.
Shooting plates with a sharps 4570, using black powder. Mar 06, 2014 paper patching bullets for my 1887 martini henry. Dan wrote a nice article in the black powder cartridge news in the winter 2008 edition. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paperpatched bullets for. I shot some jacketed bullets with black in my original winchester 1886. Most of the bullets looked like this, no gas cutting, but bigger fins than i expected. Jun 23, 20 i think this is a 7 part video giving detailed instructions on how to reload the m1881 black powder load 4570 ammo with a 500 grain lead bullet. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched bullets as well.
See our blog for up to date gun rights reports and tell us what you think we describe another method to. I like using paper patched bullets because you can get more powder in the case, of course you already know this if youve been patching for a bit. Read more on how to make and load paper patched bullets and ammunition. With the diamondknurled bullet and smokeless powder, the more shallow depth of the lube works very nicely and helps prevent lubeinduced imbalances when the bullet exits the barrel. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. If your rifle is chambered for the 45702110, cases which are. Hi dude, tried this with my 4570 using a 250 grain bullet, results on paper at 200 yards was not so good. I coule get 75 grs of 3f black with a hornady 300 gr jhp bullet. Paper patch bullet question my question has to do with powder choices. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. This ammunition is currently loaded black powder ammo in 4570 government. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles.
In fact paper patched shooters have been winning the creedmoor matches at lodi, wisconsin on a regular basis since 2010, often taking two of the top three places. Bullet size and paper size to add up to the right diameter. Nov 11, 2014 does anybody know anything about paper patched bullets for 4570. So a paper patch bullet will be a bit undersized and the paper rolled to fit the rifling. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. Loaded with swiss black powder and a 400 grain round nose lead bullet. The lee bullet mold is a good rendering of the bullet. I have a question of the use of wads under paperpatched bullets. The key to making a pp load shoot accurately is the snug fit in the bore of your rifle.
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